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01/31/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:37:50 PM Start
01:39:01 PM HB270
01:39:03 PM Overview: Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority
03:12:52 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 270 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority TELECONFERENCED
by Steve Williams, Chief Executive Officer; and
Anita Halterman, Chair, Board of Trustees
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 31, 2024                                                                                           
                         1:37 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:37:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
to order at 1:37 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Anita Halterman, Chair, Alaska Mental Health Trust                                                                              
Authority; Steve Williams, Chief Executive Officer, Alaska                                                                      
Mental Health Trust Authority.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 270    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 270 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 270                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:39:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:39:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANITA   HALTERMAN,  CHAIR,   ALASKA   MENTAL  HEALTH   TRUST                                                                    
AUTHORITY,  introduced  herself  and  opened  with  prepared                                                                    
remarks  about  the  Alaska Mental  Health  Trust  Authority                                                                    
(AMHTA):                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     We  appreciate  the  opportunity   to  present  to  the                                                                    
     committee  today.   The  Alaska  Mental   Health  Trust                                                                    
     Authority is  a state corporation that  administers the                                                                    
     Alaska Mental  Health Trust. We  are a grant  maker, an                                                                    
     advocate for vulnerable Alaskans,  and a systems change                                                                    
     agent.  By working  with state  and local  governments,                                                                    
     tribal,  nonprofit, and  provider partners  we endeavor                                                                    
     to  improve the  outcomes for  our trust  beneficiaries                                                                    
     and to  continue to  build the  continuum of  care that                                                                    
     meets the needs  for Alaskans. I hope  that through our                                                                    
     presentation today  we illustrate  that as a  board and                                                                    
     an organization, we prudently  and carefully manage and                                                                    
     apply trust resources.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halterman introduced AMHTA trustees shown on slide 2 of                                                                     
a PowerPoint presentation titled "House Finance Committee"                                                                      
dated January 31, 2024:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
    Brent Fisher, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
    Agnes Moran, Secretary, Program & Planning Committee                                                                     
     Chair                                                                                                                      
    John Sturgeon, Resource Management Committee Chair                                                                       
    Kevin Fimon, Audit & Risk Committee Chair                                                                                
    John Morris, Finance Committee Chair                                                                                     
    Rhonda Boyles, Trustee                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson welcomed the trustees to House Finance.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halterman relayed  that the AMHTA Board  of Trustees was                                                                    
an  independent board  that  provided governance,  fiduciary                                                                    
oversight,  and direction  to an  organization  in order  to                                                                    
achieve  the mission  of the  trust. Trustees  had five-year                                                                    
terms and  were appointed by  the governor and  confirmed by                                                                    
the legislature.  She reviewed trust beneficiaries  on slide                                                                    
3:                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   Trust beneficiaries include Alaskans who experience:                                                                         
    Mental illnesses                                                                                                         
    Intellectual and/or developmental disabilities                                                                           
    Alzheimer's disease and related dementia                                                                                 
    Traumatic brain injuries                                                                                                 
    Substance use disorders                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Halterman   elaborated  on  trust   beneficiaries  with                                                                    
prepared remarks:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     We recognize  that many of our  beneficiaries fall into                                                                    
     more than  one group. We  support both youth  and adult                                                                    
     beneficiaries  and  we   prioritize  individuals  whose                                                                    
     behavioral    health    condition   or    developmental                                                                    
     disability place  them at risk  of institutionalization                                                                    
     if they don't have  proper community-level services and                                                                    
     supports.  We also  consider prevention,  one of  these                                                                    
     conditions, when possible, to be part of our mandate.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:42:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halterman turned to slide 4  and read the mission of the                                                                    
trust:                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   Administer the Mental Health Trust, a perpetual trust                                                                     
  Improve lives and circumstances of Trust beneficiaries                                                                     
    Protect and enhance value of Trust lands while                                                                           
     maximizing revenues from them over time                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Halterman elaborated on slide 4 with prepared remarks:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The Alaska  Mental Health  Trust Authority,  the Trust,                                                                    
     is  a  state  corporation that  administers  the  Trust                                                                    
     perpetually to improve the  lives of beneficiaries. The                                                                    
     Trust operates  much like a foundation,  using its land                                                                    
     and cash  assets to  help ensure  that Alaskans  have a                                                                    
     comprehensive  suite of  mental  health and  disability                                                                    
     services that  meet the needs  of our  beneficiaries in                                                                    
     their  own  communities.  The   Trust  Land  Office  is                                                                    
     contracted  exclusively  by  the Trust  to  manage  its                                                                    
     approximately 1  million acres of  land and  other non-                                                                    
     cash assets in  order to generate revenue  over time to                                                                    
     serve our beneficiaries.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:43:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  WILLIAMS,  CHIEF  EXECUTIVE  OFFICER,  ALASKA  MENTAL                                                                    
HEALTH TRUST  AUTHORITY, introduced himself and  thanked the                                                                    
committee for inviting AMHTA to  present. He turned to slide                                                                    
5  titled "Financial  Position." A  bar chart  on the  slide                                                                    
showed AMHTA's financial position  over time through the end                                                                    
of 2023.  The trust's invested assets  totaled approximately                                                                    
$818  million at  the end  of 2023,  reflecting an  increase                                                                    
from  $809 million  the  previous year.  The  corpus of  the                                                                    
trust  was  approximately  $538 million  (reflected  by  the                                                                    
green portion of  the bars), which was an  increase of about                                                                    
$7 million  from the  previous year.  He explained  that the                                                                    
increase was  largely attributable to the  principal revenue                                                                    
generated  from  the  Trust Land  Office  (TLO).  The  trust                                                                    
budget  reserves totaled  about $218  million (reflected  by                                                                    
the  light blue  portion of  the bars)  and commercial  real                                                                    
estate  equity  totaled about  $61  million  (shown in  dark                                                                    
blue).  The chart  showed the  AMHTA financial  position had                                                                    
grown steadily since 1997 as  a result of prudent management                                                                    
by  the board,  TLO, and  Trust Authority  Office (TAO).  He                                                                    
noted  several   dips  in   the  trust's   invested  assets,                                                                    
specifically  in  2008  through  2010 due  to  the  national                                                                    
economy. He noted  that the $818 million  of invested assets                                                                    
did not include  the 1 million acres of land  managed by the                                                                    
TLO.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:46:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  turned to  slide  6  titled "Commercial  Real                                                                    
Estate."  The trust  owned  seven  properties including  two                                                                    
properties  in  Alaska,  one  property  in  Washington,  one                                                                    
property  in  Utah,  and  three  properties  in  Texas.  The                                                                    
occupancy  rate for  all seven  properties  was 98  percent,                                                                    
which   exceeded    the   current   national    average   of                                                                    
approximately  80   percent.  Additionally,   the  portfolio                                                                    
performance  currently  exceeded  the  national  average  by                                                                    
about 6 percent.  The TLO had experienced  staff tasked with                                                                    
ensuring  the   properties  were  occupied,   high  quality,                                                                    
retaining their  value, and  generating revenue.  The assets                                                                    
were in  the 7  to 20-year  mark in  their lifespan  and the                                                                    
board's Resource  Management Committee  directed the  TLO to                                                                    
continue active and prudent management  of the assets and to                                                                    
provide recommendations for the  board to consider regarding                                                                    
disposal of the assets when financially prudent.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski   thanked  the   presenters.  He                                                                    
relayed that the Legislative Budget  and Audit Committee had                                                                    
recently  seen information  about  some commercial  property                                                                    
the  trust  had  purchased  without  proper  authority.  The                                                                    
committee had  been told the properties  should be divested.                                                                    
He asked  if the  trust had divested  in the  properties. He                                                                    
asked for additional details.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams answered  that  the  properties referenced  by                                                                    
Representative  Tomaszewski  and  discussed  in  a  previous                                                                    
Legislative  Budget   and  Audit   report  were   the  seven                                                                    
properties  discussed  on slide  6.  He  explained that  the                                                                    
properties had  been acquired in the  mid-2000s. During that                                                                    
time  period  there  was  a  question  about  whether  trust                                                                    
principal could be used to  purchase commercial real estate.                                                                    
In   2021,  the   trustees  transferred   trust  income   of                                                                    
approximately $39  million back to  the corpus of  the trust                                                                    
to repay the principal.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  asked  if  the  recommendations                                                                    
from the audit had been satisfied.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  answered that  the  trust  was following  the                                                                    
audit  recommendations. He  explained that  when financially                                                                    
prudent,  AMHTA  would  look  at disposal  of  each  of  the                                                                    
properties.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:50:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  looked  at the  trust's  financial                                                                    
assets shown  on slide  5 and  observed that  restricted and                                                                    
unrestricted  reserves  reflected  a substantial  amount  of                                                                    
money. She asked  if the funds were  reserved for operations                                                                    
or grants.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams replied,  "Both."  He  explained that  AMHTA's                                                                    
asset management policy  had a budget reserve  target of 400                                                                    
percent of  the payout  amount for  the previous  four years                                                                    
from the  Alaska Permanent Fund.  In a period  of [economic]                                                                    
downturn the  reserves would  enable the  trust to  ride out                                                                    
the  dip  without  any  impact  to grants  or  TLO  and  TAO                                                                    
operations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe asked if  Mr. Williams was referring                                                                    
to the restricted and/or unrestricted reserves.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams responded that  the restricted and unrestricted                                                                    
reserves  were  both used  in  the  calculation of  the  400                                                                    
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  referenced   management  of  real                                                                    
estate income  that should have  been managed by  the Alaska                                                                    
Permanent Fund  Corporation (APFC).  He noted the  issue had                                                                    
received broad coverage and was  the subject of an audit. He                                                                    
asked if the issue had been resolved.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams replied  that he was not  certain he understood                                                                    
the question. He stated that  originally when the commercial                                                                    
real  estate  properties were  purchased  there  had been  a                                                                    
question  about whether  trust principal  could be  used for                                                                    
the purchase.  The AMHTA trustees  used income to  repay $39                                                                    
million to  the principal  of the  trust that  a legislative                                                                    
audit specified  should have been invested  in the Permanent                                                                    
Fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:53:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson stated  procedurally  it had  been                                                                    
unclear whether AMHTA  would pivot back to  allowing APFC to                                                                    
have its  statutory role  in managing  the funds.  He sensed                                                                    
that  APFC had  been  acquiescent about  the situation,  but                                                                    
that there was  a rule that was not being  complied with. He                                                                    
asked if the issue had been resolved.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  replied that APFC actively  managed the corpus                                                                    
and principal  of the  trust. The  $39 million  was invested                                                                    
and  actively  managed by  APFC  along  with all  the  other                                                                    
financial assets.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked for verification that  the real                                                                    
estate  investment   equity  shown   on  slide  5   was  not                                                                    
restricted or unrestricted  but was shown on the  slide as a                                                                    
percentage of assets.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams replied affirmatively.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:54:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams moved to "FY  25 Available Funding" on slide 7.                                                                    
The  slide depicted  the trustee's  approval of  the use  of                                                                    
trust funds for  FY 25. The trust generated  revenue in four                                                                    
ways and used a  calculation to determine available spending                                                                    
for the future fiscal  year. The investment portfolio payout                                                                    
shown on  the top row  of a table titled  "Trust's Estimated                                                                    
Available Funding FY 25" represented  the Permanent Fund. He                                                                    
reminded  committee members  that figures  shown in  each of                                                                    
the rows in  the table were based on an  average of the past                                                                    
four years. The first  row showing approximately $32 million                                                                    
reflected 4.25 percent  of the average of  the previous four                                                                    
years of  the Permanent  Fund [investment  portfolio payout]                                                                    
at  the close  of each  fiscal year.  The second  row showed                                                                    
$2.2  million  in  prior  year  funds  carried  forward.  He                                                                    
explained  that  the  funding  reflected  grant  funds  from                                                                    
previous years that were not  fully expended. The third line                                                                    
showed projected  TLO spendable  income at $3.7  million and                                                                    
the  fourth   row  showed  interest  earnings   of  $189,500                                                                    
(interest  on  funds in  the  checking  account). The  total                                                                    
projected  available funding  for FY  25 was  $38.5 million,                                                                    
reflecting a slight  increase from FY 24. He  noted that the                                                                    
investment  portfolio payout  funding  was  based on  APFC's                                                                    
midrange return projection.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  about  the  4.25 percent.  She                                                                    
recalled that when  Callan came to present  to the committee                                                                    
the previous year, they were proud  of how well the fund was                                                                    
doing. She  asked for details  on the board's  discussion on                                                                    
growing the  corpus versus  ensuring the  trust got  as much                                                                    
money as  possible out for  services. She observed  that the                                                                    
trust  had been  very  conservative. She  remarked that  the                                                                    
fund  was doing  very  well, and  she  wondered whether  the                                                                    
board  had considered  a payout  at a  different percentage.                                                                    
She also asked  whether the $2.2 million  in carried forward                                                                    
funding  would go  straight into  grants out  the door.  She                                                                    
asked if an  effort had been made to ensure  the grant funds                                                                    
were spent rather than carrying over into the future.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams shared  that AMHTA  had  contracted Callan  to                                                                    
look  at the  4.25 percent  payout  in the  spring of  2022.                                                                    
Callan  had looked  at the  percentage to  determine whether                                                                    
the  4.25 percent  payout should  be increased  or decreased                                                                    
based  on a  number of  different scenarios.  He highlighted                                                                    
that  one  of the  trust's  responsibilities  was to  ensure                                                                    
there  was  parity  and  equality  for  current  and  future                                                                    
beneficiaries.  He  explained  that AMHTA  was  tasked  with                                                                    
ensuring  the percentage  payout did  not put  the trust  at                                                                    
risk for  future beneficiaries. He reported  that Callan had                                                                    
determined  4.25  percent   was  currently  the  appropriate                                                                    
payout. He added that the  analysis was done every few years                                                                    
and  AMHTA   took  growth  of   the  fund  and   the  fiscal                                                                    
environment into account.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:00:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin  remarked   that   in  the   current                                                                    
environment  people could  get 4.5  percent [interest]  in a                                                                    
bank account.  She thought  it sounded  like AMHTA  waited a                                                                    
substantial period of time before  making changes, which she                                                                    
could   appreciate.   She   considered   that   the   number                                                                    
recommended  by Callan  for the  Permanent Fund  was higher.                                                                    
She  commented on  the desperate  need  for behavior  health                                                                    
services supported  by the trust  and vocalized  support for                                                                    
considering the marketplace in more real time.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  asked for  a  reminder  of  the rest  of  the                                                                    
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin complied.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams answered  that the  prior  year funds  carried                                                                    
forward represented the previous  four-year average of grant                                                                    
funding that was  not fully expended. He  explained that the                                                                    
trust would identify and expend  the funding on grants in FY                                                                    
25.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked whether the amount  [of carried                                                                    
forward funds]  was an industry  standard. She asked  if the                                                                    
number  was not  unexpected given  the magnitude  of funding                                                                    
dispersed by the trust.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams replied that he did  not know whether it was an                                                                    
industry standard, but  AMHTA tried to make  certain that no                                                                    
less than 10 percent of its awarded grants lapsed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp   asked  if   the  board   had  always                                                                    
recommended a 4.25 percent draw  since the fund's inception.                                                                    
He asked if the draw had been higher or lower in the past.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  replied  that  the draw  had  not  been  4.25                                                                    
percent  since the  fund's inception.  The number  had grown                                                                    
since 1997. He  did not have the year when  the increase was                                                                    
made, but he could follow up with the information.                                                                              
Representative Stapp  was satisfied with the  answer and did                                                                    
not need additional information.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:03:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams advanced to a  pie chart showing FY 25 spending                                                                    
on  slide 8.  The  TAO  and TLO  shown  in  green and  blue,                                                                    
respectively, represented the agency  budgets. The TAO had a                                                                    
staff of 17 and the TLO had  a staff of 19. The slide showed                                                                    
the agency budgets, which had  been kept relatively flat for                                                                    
the past several years. The  trust had been attentive to the                                                                    
allocation and  needs for each agency  budget. Additionally,                                                                    
AMHTA wanted to ensure the  TAO had adequate staff to ensure                                                                    
grant funding  got out the  door to communities and  that it                                                                    
was  able  to  monitor  and  manage  grants  and  work  with                                                                    
agencies if  they had any challenges  with implementation of                                                                    
projects. Trust  Land Office work  was about  generating and                                                                    
maximizing revenue off of trust  lands in addition to acting                                                                    
as good stewards of the  land and mitigating any liabilities                                                                    
in order to maximize revenue in the future.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams pointed to the  yellow portion of the pie chart                                                                    
on  slide   8  reflecting  Mental  Health   Trust  Authority                                                                    
Authorized  Receipts (MHTAAR).  The trustees  approved $10.2                                                                    
million  in  trust funds  for  11  departments in  different                                                                    
amounts to  support trust and state  programs, services, and                                                                    
initiatives. The legislature  provided receipt authority for                                                                    
the  departments  to expend  the  funds  similar to  federal                                                                    
receipt  authority.  The dark  green  portion  of the  chart                                                                    
reflected authority  grants. The  grants were  made directly                                                                    
from the trust office  to local governments, nonprofits, and                                                                    
tribal   organizations  that   provide  services   to  trust                                                                    
beneficiaries.   He  explained   that   the  House   Finance                                                                    
Committee  saw the  $10.2  million in  MHTARR  funds in  the                                                                    
state  budget, but  it  did  not see  the  $19.4 million  in                                                                    
authority  grants  provided  directly   from  the  trust  to                                                                    
organizations.  The  authority  grants supported  the  state                                                                    
system by  ensuring organizations had funding  available for                                                                    
things like deferred maintenance,  new programs, and capital                                                                    
needs such as updates to financial software.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:06:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  stated   that  the  legislature                                                                    
often got  questions from constituents  about why  they were                                                                    
not getting paid  on time by other departments.  He asked if                                                                    
AMHTA  used a  set of  metrics to  determine whether  it was                                                                    
getting  payments for  services rendered  from grantees.  He                                                                    
asked how AMHTA ensured everyone got paid on time.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams replied affirmatively.  He explained that after                                                                    
a  grant was  approved, the  trust  tried to  get the  first                                                                    
payment out within 30 days.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  asked  if  the  amount  shown  for                                                                    
MHTAAR grants was  more or less than the  previous year. She                                                                    
asked if the  amount was typically around  the same annually                                                                    
and how AMHTA determined the amount.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams answered  that  the FY  25  MHTAAR amount  was                                                                    
about $500,000  higher than the  FY 24 amount.  He explained                                                                    
that when  staff developed budget recommendations  that were                                                                    
presented to trustees in the  summer and the legislature and                                                                    
administration by  September 15, they looked  at priorities,                                                                    
needs,  and  capacity  for  the  individual  departments  to                                                                    
distribute   the  funding.   He   noted   that  the   number                                                                    
fluctuated. He added that part  of the trust's consideration                                                                    
when bringing  forward MHTAAR  increments was  whether there                                                                    
was any state  match. He explained it was  not a requirement                                                                    
and the majority of the grants  did not have a state general                                                                    
fund match.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:09:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  asked  how AMHTA  prioritized  its                                                                    
authority grants.  She thought  the trust likely  received a                                                                    
substantial number  of requests from across  Alaska. She had                                                                    
looked  at an  AMHTA pamphlet  and observed  that the  trust                                                                    
appeared to  have several priorities  based on  the numbers.                                                                    
She asked if  the trust focused on a particular  area of the                                                                    
state when deciding  how to distribute the  $19.4 million in                                                                    
grants in FY 25.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  requested to answer  the question on  a future                                                                    
slide.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams moved  to slide  9 titled  "MHTAAR Grants,  FY                                                                    
25."  A pie  chart on  the slide  showed the  11 departments                                                                    
receiving MHTAAR grants  in FY 25. There were  63 grants and                                                                    
the  majority  did not  have  a  state general  fund  match;                                                                    
however, there  were several in  the budget approved  by the                                                                    
trustees that should have a  match. Approximately 40 percent                                                                    
of  the  MHTAAR total  was  directed  to the  Department  of                                                                    
Health  (DOH) and  the Department  of  Family and  Community                                                                    
Services (DFCS).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:11:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  turned to a  table on  slide 10 showing  FY 25                                                                    
GF/MH   recommendations   and   associated   MHTAAR   grants                                                                    
recommended by  the trustees. He reminded  committee members                                                                    
that the board  of trustees was required by  statute to make                                                                    
state general  fund/mental health  increment recommendations                                                                    
for  how  the  state  should be  funding  its  comprehensive                                                                    
integrated mental health program  plan. The inclusion of the                                                                    
trustee's recommendations  in the  state budget  varied over                                                                    
time.  He detailed  that in  some  years a  majority of  the                                                                    
trustee's recommendations were included  in the final budget                                                                    
and in  other years  a portion  of the  recommendations were                                                                    
included. The  governor's proposed  FY 25 included  about 36                                                                    
percent of  the trustee's  recommendations. He  relayed that                                                                    
it had  to do with  priorities at  the time and  the state's                                                                    
fiscal situation. He stressed  that when trustees made state                                                                    
general fund recommendations and  approved them in the AMHTA                                                                    
budget, the  trustees were paying  attention to  the state's                                                                    
fiscal climate.  He explained  that the  trust's recommended                                                                    
budget prioritized what it believed  to be the most critical                                                                    
things that were necessary.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams reviewed  the table on slide 10.  The left side                                                                    
showed  the  project  title  and  department  receiving  the                                                                    
operating funds.  Most of the  projects were related  to DOH                                                                    
but  they also  included  increments for  the Department  of                                                                    
Revenue   (DOR),   Department   of   Education   and   Early                                                                    
Development  (DEED),   Judiciary,  and  the   Department  of                                                                    
Administration  (DOA). The  second column  reflected trustee                                                                    
approved  recommendations shown  in  yellow.  The third  and                                                                    
fourth  columns  indicated  whether   there  was  an  MHTAAR                                                                    
increment or  other funding increment (e.g.,  Alaska Housing                                                                    
Finance   Corporation   dividend)    associated   with   the                                                                    
recommendation.  He noted  that  slide  10 showed  operating                                                                    
recommendations    and     slide    11     showed    capital                                                                    
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams pointed  to the  columns on  the right  of the                                                                    
slide  showing  trustee   recommendations  included  in  the                                                                    
governor's  proposed  FY  25 budget.  The  differences  were                                                                    
shown  in the  second  to last  column.  He highlighted  the                                                                    
impacts  of  some of  the  recommended  operating items.  He                                                                    
highlighted   that  the   increment  of   $50,000  for   the                                                                    
Governor's  Council on  Disabilities  and Special  Education                                                                    
(GCDSE) was  critical for the  advisory boards  to determine                                                                    
the  statewide need  for  adults  and children  experiencing                                                                    
intellectual  and developmental  disabilities. He  explained                                                                    
that without  the increment the  council would not  have the                                                                    
ability to  fulfill its mandate  to report on the  needs and                                                                    
successes related  to the  population statewide.  The second                                                                    
row  showed  a  $75,000   increment  for  the  comprehensive                                                                    
integrative  mental health  program  plan manager  position;                                                                    
funding  of the  position  was a  shared responsibility.  He                                                                    
detailed that  the departments were statutorily  required to                                                                    
have  a  comprehensive  integrative  mental  health  program                                                                    
plan. The position was tasked  with updating the plan, which                                                                    
was currently  at its five-year  renewal cycle.  He stressed                                                                    
that the  position was  critical for  the departments  to do                                                                    
the  work  and  monitor  the   progress  on  the  plan  once                                                                    
finalized.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams addressed the $133,000  increment for the long-                                                                    
term  care ombudsman  office. The  office was  housed within                                                                    
DOR and  the trust was  statutorily required to  oversee the                                                                    
administration of the long-term  care ombudsman. The funding                                                                    
was for a position within  the office. The office was tasked                                                                    
with investigating  complaints at assisted living  homes and                                                                    
skilled  nursing  homes  statewide.   There  were  over  600                                                                    
assisted  living   homes  in  the  state   with  over  5,700                                                                    
residents between skilled nursing  homes and assisted living                                                                    
homes  located in  Ketchikan, Bethel,  Utqiagvik, Nome,  and                                                                    
everywhere  in between.  He stated  the  continued work  was                                                                    
critical. Historically, when  the office received complaints                                                                    
from  a  resident,  a  family  member,  guardian,  power  of                                                                    
attorney,  or someone  in the  community, they  investigated                                                                    
the situation  and resolved  it to  the satisfaction  of the                                                                    
complainant close to  80 percent of the time.  He added that                                                                    
the office made unannounced visits as well.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:17:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Williams  continued   to   review  AMHTA   recommended                                                                    
operating  budget  increments  on  slide  10.  He  addressed                                                                    
increments of $1.5 million and  $500,000 for Start-up Crisis                                                                    
Now  grants. He  highlighted  that  the governor's  proposed                                                                    
budget  included  a  reduction   to  the  items  and  MHTAAR                                                                    
increments  that were  not included  in  the trust  approved                                                                    
budget.  The  governor's  budget reduced  the  $1.5  million                                                                    
request by  $1 million  and added  $500,000 in  MHTAAR trust                                                                    
funds  that  were  not  approved   by  the  AMHTA  trustees.                                                                    
Additionally,  the governor's  budget  reduced the  $500,000                                                                    
increment  recommended by  trustees  by  $250,000 and  added                                                                    
$250,000 in  MHTAAR trust  funds that  were not  approved by                                                                    
the trustees. He  was working with the  Office of Management                                                                    
and Budget (OMB)  to hopefully rectify the  issue perhaps in                                                                    
the governor's amended budget. He  elaborated that there was                                                                    
no MHTAAR funding associated with  the two increments in the                                                                    
trust's  recommendations;  however,  the trust  was  heavily                                                                    
invested  in  the  [Crisis   Now]  initiative  and  provided                                                                    
funding   largely  through   AMHTA   authority  grants.   He                                                                    
explained that  trustees had approved  over $4.6  million in                                                                    
trust  authority grant  funds outside  the state  system for                                                                    
the initiative. He  reminded people not to  assume the trust                                                                    
was not  invested in something  if it  was not shown  in the                                                                    
state  budget   because  AMHTA  may  be   providing  funding                                                                    
directly to agencies through its  authority grants. He added                                                                    
that over time,  the trust had invested over  $14 million in                                                                    
the Crisis Now initiative.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  stated his understanding  that the                                                                    
governor's budget  indicated that  he did not  support using                                                                    
general funds  on the  trustees' recommended  increments but                                                                    
was   amenable  to   using  trust   funds.   He  asked   for                                                                    
verification that  the trust  was not  entirely in  favor of                                                                    
the change.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  surmised that  the governor's  proposed budget                                                                    
did  not want  to include  the  full $1.5  million [for  the                                                                    
first increment for Crisis Now  grants shown on slide 10] in                                                                    
state general funds. The proposed  budget reduced the amount                                                                    
of general  funds by $1  million and added  additional trust                                                                    
funds that were not approved by the trustees.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson recalled that  the prior year there                                                                    
had been  a number of  legislators who wanted to  follow the                                                                    
trustees'   recommendations   and   had   offered   [budget]                                                                    
amendments  to  that effect.  He  asked  how successful  the                                                                    
effort had been.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  replied  that  he  would  follow  up  with  a                                                                    
comparison  between  the  trustee  recommendations  and  the                                                                    
enacted  budget. He  recalled that  a significant  amount of                                                                    
the  trust   recommendations  had   been  included   in  the                                                                    
governor's budget and  the majority had made  it through the                                                                    
process.  He clarified  that the  trust was  appreciative of                                                                    
the  increments included  in the  governor's proposed  FY 25                                                                    
budget. The trust also wanted  to move forward and hopefully                                                                    
include  some  of  the  increments  that  were  critical  to                                                                    
meeting the needs of beneficiaries.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  for  verification that  the                                                                    
AMHTA  authority grants  were  entirely  within the  trust's                                                                    
purview and could not be vetoed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams responded affirmatively.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:23:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams clarified  that only the board  of trustees had                                                                    
the authorization  to expend trust funds.  He explained that                                                                    
when  it came  to MHTAAR,  the legislature  provided receipt                                                                    
authority  for  trust funds  to  be  expended by  the  state                                                                    
department  or division  as approved  and intended  by AMHTA                                                                    
trustees.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  stated  her understanding  that  the                                                                    
legislature  did  not  have the  authority  to  spend  AMHTA                                                                    
funds. She understood that the  AMHTA board had to authorize                                                                    
expenditures.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan referenced  the  increment [on  slide                                                                    
10]  for the  long-term  care ombudsman.  She  asked if  the                                                                    
position was existing  or new. She asked  how many long-term                                                                    
care ombudsmen  there were or  had been. She  referenced Mr.                                                                    
William's  statement  about  the   critical  nature  of  the                                                                    
position and  she reasoned  it was  likely the  state needed                                                                    
more of the positions based on its aging population.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams replied that the  position was currently funded                                                                    
with  federal funds  that were  expiring soon.  He explained                                                                    
that  without  the state  funds  the  position and  capacity                                                                    
would be reduced. He believed  there were six or seven full-                                                                    
time ombudsmen positions  for the state. He  would follow up                                                                    
with specific information.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan requested  information on the capacity                                                                    
or  workloads associated  with the  positions. She  remarked                                                                    
that  in her  experience  with  constituents, the  ombudsmen                                                                    
appeared to be  working to full capacity.  She presumed that                                                                    
losing a position would lead to fewer investigations.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams agreed to provide the information.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  thought it looked like  a simple                                                                    
.25 percent draw  would cover the critical  needs [listed on                                                                    
slide 10].  He asked if  there was resistance  to increasing                                                                    
the draw to 4.5 percent.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams replied  that  he did  not  believe there  was                                                                    
resistance. He explained  that within the next  1.5 years or                                                                    
so, the  trust would  have Callan or  someone similar  do an                                                                    
analysis on the appropriate  payout percentage for the trust                                                                    
overall. He noted the analysis was done on a regular basis.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:27:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  turned  to  slide  11  titled  "FY  25  GF/MH                                                                    
Recommendations   (and   Associated  MHTAAR   Grants)"   and                                                                    
addressed  capital budget  increments  recommended by  AMHTA                                                                    
trustees.  The  slide  showed the  differences  between  the                                                                    
governor's  proposed  budget   and  the  trustees'  approved                                                                    
recommendations.   He  highlighted   the   first  row   [for                                                                    
coordinated  community transportation]  and explained  there                                                                    
was no general fund/mental  health fund difference; however,                                                                    
the   governor's  proposed   budget   included  $50,000   of                                                                    
unauthorized MHTAAR  trust funds. He highlighted  there were                                                                    
significant  differences  between  the  general  fund/mental                                                                    
health  fund  trustee  recommendations  and  the  governor's                                                                    
proposed  budget for  the Special  Needs  Housing Grant  and                                                                    
Homeless Assistance  Program. He  emphasized that  the items                                                                    
were critical and  had been in the budget  for several years                                                                    
to address capital and operating  housing needs for unhoused                                                                    
beneficiaries  or   beneficiaries  needing  access   to  low                                                                    
barrier/low cost housing.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson shared  that he  had met  with the                                                                    
Anchorage mayor  the previous  week and  he agreed  with the                                                                    
mayor's argument  that Anchorage's homelessness  problem was                                                                    
the  state's  homelessness  problem. He  thought  the  mayor                                                                    
would prefer  for the governor to  appropriate [include] the                                                                    
$2.85  million [for  the  Homeless  Assistance Program].  He                                                                    
stated  it was  obviously something  the trust  cared deeply                                                                    
about. He asked if he was correct.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams agreed that the  increment was important, which                                                                    
was  the  reason  it  had been  included  in  the  trustees'                                                                    
recommendations to the governor.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon   asked  about   the  rationale   that  the                                                                    
governor's   budget   would   not  include   the   trustees'                                                                    
recommendations for the last three items [on slide 11].                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams replied that he did not have the answer.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon asked if the  components were matching funds                                                                    
that were part of a larger package.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Williams  responded   that   the  trustees'   proposed                                                                    
increment for the  special needs housing grant  had been the                                                                    
same for several  years. There had been  occasions where the                                                                    
general fund/mental  health increment  was not  included but                                                                    
was  added in  the legislative  process. He  noted that  the                                                                    
increment  reflected flat  funding that  would not  meet the                                                                    
total need because  of the individuals and  because the cost                                                                    
of construction  and operations had  increased significantly                                                                    
in  the  past  couple  of   years.  He  stated  he  had  the                                                                    
same/similar response to the Homeless Assistance Program.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon believed  that for the second year  in a row                                                                    
the  conversation had  come to  the same  intersection where                                                                    
"we  decide  to  move  onto  the  next  topic"  because  the                                                                    
rationale  [to   exclude  the  funding  in   the  governor's                                                                    
proposed budget] escaped him.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:30:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  asked  Mr. Williams  to  touch  on  legal                                                                    
issues  that  had  been  resolved in  the  past  related  to                                                                    
AMHTA's authority to control its own budget.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams answered  that AMHTA  had been  established in                                                                    
1994  due to  a lawsuit  against  the State  of Alaska.  The                                                                    
seven-member board  of trustees  was established  to oversee                                                                    
and have fiduciary responsibility  for the cash and non-cash                                                                    
assets of  the trust. Under  statute, the board  of trustees                                                                    
had  the authority  to  expend trust  funds  on meeting  the                                                                    
needs of beneficiaries and to  fulfill programs and services                                                                    
for a comprehensive integrative  mental health program plan.                                                                    
The settlement  also ruled that  the board of  trustees made                                                                    
recommendations  on how  the state  should  be spending  its                                                                    
general  fund  dollars.  He reiterated  that  the  board  of                                                                    
trustees authorized  expenditures for  its funds  and annual                                                                    
budget process and making recommendations  for how the state                                                                    
could  be and  should be  spending state  general funds.  He                                                                    
explained it  was up to  the administration  and legislature                                                                    
to determine how to accommodate the recommendations.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson asked  if  there  was anything  additional                                                                    
ever defined for  a situation where the  legislature did not                                                                    
follow  the trust  recommendations.  She  remarked that  the                                                                    
board of trustees had the authority to expend.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  did not  know of  any additional  piece beyond                                                                    
the board's statute.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  advanced  to slide  12  titled  "Trust  Grant                                                                    
Impacts." He  highlighted that  the AMHTA  investment report                                                                    
and  annual report  had been  distributed to  legislators at                                                                    
the beginning  of the week.  The investment  report included                                                                    
details  on  the  190  trust   grants  [awarded  in  FY  23]                                                                    
including  a description,  amount, and  location. The  slide                                                                    
showed  14 different  communities or  areas where  the trust                                                                    
had directed  grants. He clarified  that some of  the grants                                                                    
had  a  statewide  impact  and   were  not  limited  to  the                                                                    
communities shown on the slide.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:35:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  believed  everyone   would  agree  on  the                                                                    
importance of  HB 172 [legislation related  to mental health                                                                    
facilities] that  passed in  2022. He  wondered how  much of                                                                    
the  close  to $23  million  in  grant awards  was  directed                                                                    
towards  crisis   intervention.  He  asked  if   the  amount                                                                    
directed to crisis intervention would  increase over 5 to 10                                                                    
years based on the legislation.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  responded that  he  did  not have  the  exact                                                                    
amount.  In  FY  24,  the  trustees  approved  $4.6  million                                                                    
towards Crisis  Now related efforts  and in FY 25  there was                                                                    
roughly $4.7  million. He did  not have the figures  on hand                                                                    
for FY  22 or FY  23, but he offered  to follow up  with the                                                                    
information. The trust invested  $14 million since the start                                                                    
of the initiative with DOH.  He stated as there were several                                                                    
communities   starting  to   have  the   conversations,  the                                                                    
legislation was  critical to establish  a system  of earlier                                                                    
intervention with  someone experiencing a  behavioral health                                                                    
crisis. He  anticipated that the trust  would remain focused                                                                    
on the  issue and  would be  working with  communities other                                                                    
than  the three  that got  started in  Anchorage, Fairbanks,                                                                    
and Mat-Su. He noted there were  a couple of slides later in                                                                    
the presentation with more detail.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  shared that  he had  met with  a contingent                                                                    
from the  Northwest Arctic Borough  earlier in the  week and                                                                    
the group  had talked about crisis  stabilization efforts at                                                                    
the Maniilaq  hospital and the  challenges they  were having                                                                    
with  travel from  villages to  a  centralized location.  He                                                                    
underscored the  importance of the  [Crisis Now]  effort and                                                                    
expressed appreciation for the trust's work.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:37:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  spoke about crisis care  versus acute                                                                    
care that was  necessary based on what was  learned from the                                                                    
crisis care. She  had met with providers earlier  in the day                                                                    
from  Nome, Valdez,  Ketchikan,  and across  Alaska who  had                                                                    
shared concerns  that Crisis Care  Now was starting  to ramp                                                                    
up  in  a great  way  but  there was  no  place  to put  the                                                                    
patients  after receiving  the  immediate  crisis care.  She                                                                    
observed  that some  of the  capital  components in  AMHTA's                                                                    
budget  were  to help  with  the  issue.  She did  not  know                                                                    
whether  it  addressed  the need  for  care  providers.  She                                                                    
highlighted there  was room  for 10  beds in  Nome; however,                                                                    
the facility only had staff  to serve five individuals after                                                                    
receiving  crisis care.  She asked  if there  was a  plan to                                                                    
focus on ensuring  there were spaces for  the patients after                                                                    
receiving crisis care.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  answered that crisis  care was only  one piece                                                                    
of the  continuum of care; it  was a point in  time where an                                                                    
individual   needed  critical   health  immediately.   Since                                                                    
AMHTA's  inception  in  1997, the  trust  and  its  advisory                                                                    
boards including the Governor's  Council on Disabilities and                                                                    
Special  Education,  Alaska  Mental Health  Board,  Advisory                                                                    
Board  on   Alcoholism  and  Drug  Abuse,   and  the  Alaska                                                                    
Commission  on Aging  had  always  advocated for  community-                                                                    
based services. He spoke about the need for a community-                                                                        
based  service  continuum  in  order  to  hopefully  prevent                                                                    
someone   from   going   into   a   crisis.   He   addressed                                                                    
Representative  Galvin's point  about  continued care  after                                                                    
individuals  left crisis  care.  The trust  would always  be                                                                    
speaking  to and  looking to  the community-based  system to                                                                    
ensure it could do and advocate  for what it could to have a                                                                    
robust  system  that  met  the   needs  of  individuals.  He                                                                    
remarked  that it  was the  same  conversation when  talking                                                                    
about individuals coming in and  out of the juvenile justice                                                                    
system, the  Office of Children's  Services system,  and the                                                                    
Department  of  Corrections  (DOC)  system.  He  stated  the                                                                    
community-based system  was needed  to prevent  contact with                                                                    
those higher levels of care.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:41:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  moved to "Trust  Focus Areas" on slide  13. He                                                                    
noted  the slide  may  help  with Representative  Coulombe's                                                                    
earlier  question  about  how  AMHTA  prioritized  authority                                                                    
grant funding. He  detailed that in the  trust's early years                                                                    
the  grant making  was a  scattershot  process. He  detailed                                                                    
that applications  had come in, were  considered, and grants                                                                    
were awarded  or declined. There  had not been  a connection                                                                    
on how grants  worked together and how  they integrated with                                                                    
the state system.  He explained that it  had not necessarily                                                                    
been   prioritized  based   on  beneficiaries'   needs.  The                                                                    
trustees had established focus areas:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   Established Focus Areas                                                                                                      
      Disability Justice                                                                                                     
      Mental Health & Addiction Intervention                                                                                 
          o Includes Behavioral Health Crisis Response                                                                          
      Beneficiary Employment & Engagement                                                                                    
      Housing and Home & Community Based Services                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   Additional Priorities                                                                                                        
      Workforce Development                                                                                                  
      Early Childhood Intervention & Prevention                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams elaborated  on the focus areas on  slide 13. He                                                                    
detailed  that  disability  justice   was  an  umbrella  for                                                                    
contact with  the juvenile justice  system and  the criminal                                                                    
justice system.  There was substantial  work that  needed to                                                                    
be done  to identify the  needs of beneficiaries  earlier so                                                                    
they  could   be  diverted  out  when   appropriate  and  so                                                                    
individuals did not pose public  safety risks. The trust had                                                                    
strategies  under  each of  the  focus  areas with  projects                                                                    
identified through a robust  conversation with state, tribal                                                                    
health,  and community  partners,  which  were then  brought                                                                    
forward to  trustees for allocation  of resources.  He noted                                                                    
it  included  specific  expenditures  related  to  authority                                                                    
grant funding as well as  recommendations for MHTAAR funding                                                                    
that went through the state budget process.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:43:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  asked  if  the  current  five-year                                                                    
mental health  plan (that was expiring)  was integrated with                                                                    
the  established focus  areas. She  thought it  sounded like                                                                    
the   trust  had   good   communication   with  the   health                                                                    
departments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  agreed that  projects  funded  by AMHTA  were                                                                    
connected  to  the  comprehensive   plan.  The  trust  would                                                                    
continue  to   use  the  comprehensive  plan   once  it  was                                                                    
"refreshed" for the next five years.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  turned to slide  14 showing high  level policy                                                                    
and advocacy issues tracked and monitored by AMHTA:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
    Community-Based Services                                                                                                 
    Youth and early childhood mental health                                                                                  
    Medicaid and provider reimbursement rates                                                                                
    Dementia care                                                                                                            
    Reentry supports                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  stated that  the trust  and its  partners were                                                                    
working together to address needs  associated with youth and                                                                    
early  childhood mental  health,  which continued  to be  an                                                                    
issue.  For   example,  getting  access  to   mental  health                                                                    
services  in  schools  and  early  intervention  to  address                                                                    
conditions  early  to  curtail impacts  in  adolescence  and                                                                    
adulthood. The Department of Health  was looking at Medicaid                                                                    
rate  methodology for  the mental  health system  and senior                                                                    
and  disability system  to determine  how rates  compared to                                                                    
where they  needed to be and  how to ensure rates  kept pace                                                                    
with the cost of doing  business and inflation over time. He                                                                    
pointed  out that  a flat  rate was  in essence  a reduction                                                                    
over time.  Dementia care  included work  done by  the trust                                                                    
with  senior and  disability  services  and the  Alzheimer's                                                                    
Resource  Agency  on  accessing  and working  to  develop  a                                                                    
system  for the  state's aging  population. Lastly,  reentry                                                                    
supports  were critical  to ensure  planning for  a person's                                                                    
reentry  into  the community  happened  well  in advance  of                                                                    
their  date  of  release.  He  stressed  the  importance  of                                                                    
continuing gains and recovery that  may have been made prior                                                                    
to release.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:47:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  turned  to slide  15  showing  an  innovation                                                                    
timeline on  the Crisis Now  initiative. In 2018,  the trust                                                                    
and the  Department of Health  and Social Services  (now the                                                                    
Department of Health and Department  of Family and Community                                                                    
Services)  had  embarked on  the  Crisis  Now initiative  to                                                                    
transform   the  response   to  a   person  experiencing   a                                                                    
behavioral  health  crisis,  which  had been  sparked  by  a                                                                    
lawsuit against the state. He  highlighted progress that had                                                                    
been made  in many  communities. He noted  Co-Chair Edgmon's                                                                    
mention of Kotzebue and relayed  that AMHTA was working with                                                                    
Maniilaq  to determine  how it  may be  able to  establish a                                                                    
crisis  stabilization  center  for  the  region.  The  slide                                                                    
illustrated  that  what  started as  looking  at  Fairbanks,                                                                    
Anchorage, and Mat-Su  based on an analysis of  the needs of                                                                    
the state,  had resulted in  other systems of care  in other                                                                    
places to  address needs. He  remarked that the  systems may                                                                    
not all look the same as  those in Anchorage and may need to                                                                    
be adapted to meet needs in a better way.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:49:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson pointed  to the  reference to  the                                                                    
psychiatric  patient rights  report near  the bottom  of the                                                                    
right column  on slide 15. He  pointed out that there  was a                                                                    
group  of well  intentioned people  who were  concerned that                                                                    
Crisis Now was more  involuntary commitment and drugging. He                                                                    
stated  that by  definition the  service was  meant to  be a                                                                    
short   timeframe,  which   he   believed  had   to  be   an                                                                    
improvement. He  wanted to give Mr.  Williams an opportunity                                                                    
to respond to the criticism.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams answered that when  the trust looked at the way                                                                    
the  behavioral health  crisis system  operated in  2018 and                                                                    
how  to  transform  the system,  the  trust  had  considered                                                                    
individuals who may require an  involuntary commitment for a                                                                    
short  period of  time  (because they  present  a danger  to                                                                    
themselves or others by the  courts) and for individuals who                                                                    
voluntarily  needed   access  to  care.  The   goal  was  to                                                                    
intervene early  to try to  stabilize the individual  and to                                                                    
do an  assessment to determine  whether additional  care was                                                                    
needed at the appropriate level of care.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams advanced  to slide  16 and  shared that  in an                                                                    
effort  to  try to  understand  the  beneficiary needs,  the                                                                    
trust conducted a  rural outreach trip in the  fall of 2023.                                                                    
He relayed that Representative  Coulombe had joined the trip                                                                    
to the  Bethel region. The  trust appreciated the  work with                                                                    
the Yukon  Kuskokwim Health Corporation, the  Association of                                                                    
Village  Council Presidents  (AVCP),  and  the AVCP  Housing                                                                    
Authority. He  elaborated that the  entities had  hosted the                                                                    
group and helped to identify  the abilities and needs of the                                                                    
communities to  meet with AMHTA.  The trip included  16 site                                                                    
visits in Bethel  and smaller teams had  traveled to Toksook                                                                    
Bay,  Saint  Mary's,  Kwethluk,   and  Napaskiak.  The  trip                                                                    
included  legislators,  commissioners, trustees,  and  AMTHA                                                                    
staff. He  added that people  had visited the  hub community                                                                    
and  villages with  subregional clinics  or health  clinics.                                                                    
The  trust  looked forward  to  doing  another trip  in  the                                                                    
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:52:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams turned  to slide  17 and  discussed the  Trust                                                                    
Land Office.  The TLO  had a  staff of 19  led by  Ms. Jusdi                                                                    
Warner and was responsible  for overseeing the management of                                                                    
the trust's 1 million acres.  By statute and the settlement,                                                                    
the trust  was required to  contract with TLO  [housed under                                                                    
the Department  of Natural Resources]  to manage  the lands.                                                                    
He  highlighted  that the  TLO  was  tasked with  maximizing                                                                    
revenue off  of the lands and  to steward the lands  for the                                                                    
future. He  pointed out  that the  lands were  private lands                                                                    
held  in a  trust and  were managed  differently than  state                                                                    
public  lands.   He  noted   the  issue   sometimes  created                                                                    
confusion for  the public, but  the trust worked  to provide                                                                    
education on  the differences. The  right side of  the slide                                                                    
showed  the seven  asset classes  used to  generate revenues                                                                    
off  the  land  including   coal,  oil  and  gas,  minerals,                                                                    
materials, timber,  lands, and  commercial real  estate. The                                                                    
bottom  of the  table  showed the  total  anticipated FY  24                                                                    
revenue  of  $12.6  million.  He  explained  that  about  50                                                                    
percent of  the generated revenue  would go directly  to the                                                                    
corpus  of the  trust and  the other  50 percent  was income                                                                    
that could be expended [shown on slide 7].                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:54:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  looked  at slide  7  with  $3.7                                                                    
million in Trust  Land Office spendable income.  He asked if                                                                    
it was one-quarter of the anticipated TLO revenues.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  responded  that  the  amount  reflected  one-                                                                    
quarter  of  the  roughly $6  million  in  spendable  income                                                                    
generated from the seven asset classes on slide 17.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson noted  there were  a number  of pieces  of                                                                    
legislation dealing  with timber  sales and  carbon capture,                                                                    
most of  which were the  governor's bills. She asked  if the                                                                    
trust  was   tracking  the   topics  as   potential  revenue                                                                    
generators on AMHTA land.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams advanced to slide  18 titled "Trust Land Office                                                                    
Highlights" to  answer the question.  The slide  showed ways                                                                    
the TLO generated  revenue for the trust. The  trust held an                                                                    
annual fall land  sale, which generated about  $2 million in                                                                    
2023. The trust  had only sold about 3 percent  of its total                                                                    
land.  He elaborated  that  the  trust did  over-the-counter                                                                    
sales.  He detailed  that an  individual could  approach the                                                                    
TLO  to  purchase  a  parcel.  He  highlighted  the  trust's                                                                    
forestry program,  specifically the forest  fuels mitigation                                                                    
work  in Tok.  He expounded  that  the trust  had done  fire                                                                    
mitigation work  in Tok  on trust  parcels. He  relayed that                                                                    
the  product resulting  from the  thinning of  trees in  the                                                                    
area was used as biomass fuel for the Tok school.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams continued  to review  TLO highlights  on slide                                                                    
18. The  trust leased some of  its lands for wind  and solar                                                                    
energy. He elaborated  that there were trust  parcels on the                                                                    
Kenai  that  were  leased for  solar  energy.  Additionally,                                                                    
there were wind  farms on parcels across the  inlet and near                                                                    
Healy  that  would  tie  into  the  Golden  Valley  Electric                                                                    
Association,  Chugach  Electric,   and  the  Homer  Electric                                                                    
Association.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  referenced   Co-Chair  Johnson's  mention  of                                                                    
carbon sequestration.  The trust was looking  into the topic                                                                    
and was assessing  its lands to determine how it  may fit in                                                                    
the  portfolio  of  activities.   He  addressed  the  fourth                                                                    
category  on slide  18: subdivision  development. The  trust                                                                    
parcels  could be  large and  located near  communities. The                                                                    
trust  considered how  the parcels  could  be subdivided  to                                                                    
create opportunities  for commercial or  housing development                                                                    
in  communities. Lastly,  the  Icy Cape  project started  in                                                                    
2015 and was  located on a parcel north of  Yakutat that was                                                                    
being assessed  for gold and  heavy minerals. The  trust had                                                                    
done some core sampling,  which was currently being assessed                                                                    
for value. The  project started off as a  heavy metals focus                                                                    
that  had  transitioned  into  a  gold-focused  project.  He                                                                    
clarified  the project  was using  placer  mining, not  hard                                                                    
rock mining.  He stated that  AMHTA was hopeful  the project                                                                    
would  generate  revenue  for   the  trust  in  addition  to                                                                    
building and growing an economy in the region.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  asked Co-Chair  Johnson  if  his comments  on                                                                    
carbon sequestration  and renewable energy had  answered her                                                                    
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson responded  affirmatively. She  highlighted                                                                    
Representative  Jesse Sumner's  lumber grading  legislation.                                                                    
She asked  if individuals  could recommend/request  that the                                                                    
trust include a specific parcel in a land sale.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  recommended that an individual  could call Ms.                                                                    
Warner  with  the   TLO  to  determine  whether   it  was  a                                                                    
possibility.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson   clarified  that  she  did   not  have  a                                                                    
recommendation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  encouraged anyone  with questions  about trust                                                                    
land  to  contact  the  TLO. He  highlighted  that  the  TLO                                                                    
website included a GIS system  showing the parcels and their                                                                    
location.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:01:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  asked if the  $2.8 million under  the real                                                                    
estate line on slide 17 reflected real estate sales.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams responded  that the  figure reflected  revenue                                                                    
generated from  leases and rents  on each of the  seven real                                                                    
estate properties.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson asked  about the  lands category  on slide                                                                    
17.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  replied  that  he  would  follow  up  with  a                                                                    
specific  answer   in  writing.   He  corrected   his  prior                                                                    
statement  about the  $2.8 million  in  real estate  revenue                                                                    
line on  slide 17. He  clarified that the  category included                                                                    
other  elements of  revenue generated  from other  pieces of                                                                    
real estate  in addition to  the trust's real  estate assets                                                                    
he previously mentioned.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams  concluded  with   slide  19  titled  "Looking                                                                    
Ahead." He relayed  that AMHTA looked forward  to the growth                                                                    
of the trust,  and the ability to partner with  the state to                                                                    
continue   its  grantmaking   to   improve   the  lives   of                                                                    
beneficiaries  and build  out the  Comprehensive, Integrated                                                                    
Mental  Health  Program  Plan.  The  trust  held  its  first                                                                    
Improving Lives conference in the  fall of 2022 and the 2024                                                                    
conference  would  be  held  on   September  17  and  18  in                                                                    
Anchorage.   The  trust   would  continue   its  work   with                                                                    
departments and  other state agencies on  the next five-year                                                                    
comprehensive  plan. He  elaborated  that the  collaboration                                                                    
with other  agencies went  beyond DOH  and DFCS  because the                                                                    
beneficiaries'  needs   were  not   limited  to   those  two                                                                    
departments. He highlighted  other departments including the                                                                    
Department  of Public  Safety, DOC,  and  DEED. Lastly,  the                                                                    
slide showed  the next  land sale  would be  in the  fall of                                                                    
2024.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:04:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz thanked  the  trust for  its work  and                                                                    
presentation. He thought  it seemed like the  demands on the                                                                    
resources available to the trust  were growing. He looked at                                                                    
the  trust's  mission   on  slide  4.  He   asked  if  every                                                                    
allocation  was  measured  against the  trust's  mission  to                                                                    
improve the lives and  circumstances of trust beneficiaries.                                                                    
He  thought the  other two  items  shown on  the slide  were                                                                    
easier  to measure.  He asked  if  there was  an attempt  to                                                                    
measure  the  trust's  success pertaining  to  the  specific                                                                    
goal.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams answered that the  trust looked at the specific                                                                    
portion of  its mission  in a couple  of different  ways. He                                                                    
elaborated that the  work of the trust to  improve the lives                                                                    
and  circumstances of  trust beneficiaries  happened at  the                                                                    
individual  beneficiary level,  program  or services  level,                                                                    
and at a systems change level.  He explained that all of the                                                                    
trust's  funds   had  a  grant  agreement   and  performance                                                                    
measures attached.  He expounded that the  trust tracked the                                                                    
performance of  its grants and  the impact  on beneficiaries                                                                    
as reported back  from grantees. He noted  that the specific                                                                    
portion of the trust's mission  could be difficult to track;                                                                    
however, the trust, departments,  trust advisory boards, and                                                                    
community  partners engaged  with  AMHTA  to identify  gaps,                                                                    
successes that  could potentially  be expanded,  things that                                                                    
were not working,  and how the items would  impact the lives                                                                    
of beneficiaries.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz looked  at slide  9 related  to MHTAAR                                                                    
grants.  He highlighted  the segment  of grants  directed to                                                                    
the Alaska Court System shown in  the pie chart on the slide                                                                    
as an  example. He did  not know  how the court  system used                                                                    
the grants to  promote the trust's middle goal  [on slide 4:                                                                    
improve lives and circumstances  of trust beneficiaries]. He                                                                    
asked if grants  were always measured against  the goal when                                                                    
determining whether an agency would receive funding.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams replied  affirmatively. He  drew attention  to                                                                    
the  comprehensive  plan  and  the goal  to  ensure  that  a                                                                    
project or  initiative (1) connected to  improving the lives                                                                    
of beneficiaries and (2) was  connected to the comprehensive                                                                    
plan. The  comprehensive plan contained higher  level policy                                                                    
direction for a robust system for the State of Alaska.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:08:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe asked if  there was an approximation                                                                    
of the land value of the trust's one million acres.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams responded  that the land as a  whole was valued                                                                    
at $1 per  acre; however, the amount changed  over time when                                                                    
looking  at  development  or  a  resource  on  a  particular                                                                    
parcel.  He explained  that trying  to assess  the value  of                                                                    
each of the  one million acres would be  costly without some                                                                    
type of end purpose or goal.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  was trying to get  her head wrapped                                                                    
around the  trust's assets. She  thought that at  some point                                                                    
the trust  would have  to tell  someone an  approximation of                                                                    
its land value. She considered  that perhaps the land in Icy                                                                    
Bay was valued  at a much higher rate than  a less desirable                                                                    
parcel in  another location. She  thought much of  the trust                                                                    
land was located in Southeast and Southcentral.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   answered  that  the  land   was  located  in                                                                    
Southeast,  Southcentral, the  Fairbanks  area,  and to  the                                                                    
west.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  asked about partnership  grants and                                                                    
estimated  the  grants  made  up about  $2  million  of  the                                                                    
trust's  awarded funds.  She asked  if partners  matched the                                                                    
trust money.  She asked  for a  definition of  a partnership                                                                    
grant.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams   answered  that  partnership  grants   was  a                                                                    
grantmaking  category.  The  trustees approved  around  $2.5                                                                    
million  in   a  fiscal  year   in  unallocated   funds.  He                                                                    
elaborated that organizations could apply  for a grant for a                                                                    
program or service  to meet the needs and  improve the lives                                                                    
of  beneficiaries and  was  connected  to the  comprehensive                                                                    
plan.  Often  there  was  no  match  requirement  but  grant                                                                    
proposals  listed other  pending  or  secured fund  sources,                                                                    
which could include other  foundations, state grant funding,                                                                    
and federal funds.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:11:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  thanked Mr. Williams and  AMHTA for                                                                    
the  trip during  the interim,  which she  found insightful.                                                                    
She appreciated the invitation.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson thanked the presenters.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB  270  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson reviewed  the schedule  for the  following                                                                    
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:12:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:12 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HFIN AMHTA Trust Presentation 1.30.24.pdf HFIN 1/31/2024 1:30:00 PM
AMHTA Responses to H FIN Committee Questions 2.9.24.pdf HFIN 1/31/2024 1:30:00 PM